{"id":12,"date":"2020-12-01T17:35:00","date_gmt":"2020-12-01T17:35:00","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2024-02-14T17:50:25","modified_gmt":"2024-02-14T17:50:25","slug":"heaven-free-will-predestination-and-gods-test-a-quickie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/averagejoeatheist.com\/?p=12","title":{"rendered":"Heaven, free will, predestination and God’s test (a quickie)"},"content":{"rendered":"

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How come the Christian god didn’t just create us in Heaven as eternal beings?<\/span> <\/div>\n

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Because this is all a test to see if you will accept the sacrifice of his son, Jesus.<\/p>\n

But doesn’t the god already know if we will pass his test?<\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, but we still have to take the test.<\/p>\n

Why?<\/span><\/p>\n

Because my God said so.<\/p>\n

But he knows if we will pass it right?<\/span><\/p>\n

Yes<\/p>\n

And he knew before he created us if we’d pass the test right?<\/span><\/p>\n

Yes.<\/p>\n

And even some people who claim to be Christian will fail this test right? <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes<\/p>\n

And everyone who believes in other gods or no god will fail this test?<\/span> <\/p>\n

Yes<\/p>\n

So most of us will fail this test? <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes.<\/p>\n

What happens if we fail the test?<\/span><\/p>\n

You burn in Hell forever. <\/p>\n

So he created us knowing most of us would fail and he would send us to Hell?<\/span><\/p>\n

Yes<\/p>\n

So it’s a setup then? <\/span><\/p>\n

No, you have free will.<\/p>\n

But he knew in advance we’d fail. Because its part of his plan? <\/span><\/p>\n

Yes.<\/p>\n

So, he created us just to send us to Hell.<\/span><\/p>\n

No, you have free will.<\/p>\n

But he already knows how we will use it?<\/span><\/p>\n

Yes….<\/p>\n

Okay, let me start again…..<\/span><\/p>\n

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(Insert any other god you would like… I have the same questions) <\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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